In other words:

“Our personal relationship had its ups and downs, as Ben was a very complex person and could be moody. Plus, I was only in my twenties, but fortunately we did remain friends through it all. Ben was somewhat intense and seemed introverted, but he was really just taking time to get to know you, then he would open up a little more. He was quite a character once I got to know him, and he always had something fun or creative going on. The man never sat still!” — David Frangioni, recording engineer and producer, Let’s Go! Benjamin Orr and The Cars by Joe Milliken, p. 159

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L-R: Vocalists Charlie Farren and Brad Delp, engineer and co-producer David Frangioni, and Ben Orr, during the 1993 recording sessions for Ben’s second (unreleased) solo album. Photo courtesy of David Frangioni; used with permission.

9 thoughts on “In other words:

    1. Why does it make you feel sad? Is it because neither Ben nor Brad Delp is still with us? The circumstances of Delp’s death?

      I took a good look at this one the other day when I was on pinterest, don’t know why, I just paid more attention to it for some reason and aside from Ben’s perhaps slightly questionable choice of shirt pattern, I realized it’s a pretty good picture. I think the shirt distracted me the other times and all I could think was “What the heck is going on with that shirt?” πŸ™‚

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      1. MG, what makes me sad is Ben’s woebegone expression. I look at his face, and I get a sense of profound sadness from him, and whatever may have been going through his mind at that moment may have been reflected in his expression. I know that after the Cars broke up, Ben went through some difficult times, probably direct as well as indirect fallout as a result of the break-up. Failed relationships, personal problems, probably more than I will ever know or need to know or want to know. But I can see his expression here, and it doesn’t give me the feeling that he was in a good place in his life at that moment, and, as such, it just breaks my heart. Of course, he may have been happier than he’d been in a very long time at that frozen moment in time, and he may have just had a crappy lunch. Who knows? But the feeling this photo conveys to me is that of profound sadness. I don’t know the story about Brad Delp, and I hope you’d be willing to fill me in. I hope I explained myself clearly.

        BTW, that shirt is awesome. I love it, as obnoxious as it is! πŸ˜‰

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    2. Oh I don’t hate the shirt. It’s better than being boring. πŸ™‚ It’s just distracting, because every time I’d see the photo I’d be like “What is ON that shirt”, it reminds me of an oversize pajama top and I can’t make out the pattern so I don’t know if it’s just abstract shapes and colors or like cows or something LOL. I like the main color though, it’s quite flattering on him.

      Ben had ups and downs but like the quote says he also nearly always had something creative or fun going on, so I think he was able to often keep himself busy and tried to enjoy the parts of his life he could enjoy even when other parts weren’t going like he’d want them to. Not saying there weren’t times when he was down or even depressed but he was working on writing and recording songs during the period this picture was taken so I think he probably was doing OK at least in regards to that.

      With regards to Brad Delp,, I don’t know much about it but in 2007, he committed suicide. Various issues in his personal life combined with his apparently having suffered from depression since he was a teenager.

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  1. It made me sad because somewhere someone knows where “Ben’s second (unreleased) solo album” is! But I also agree he looks super unhappy and the shirt IS awful! (Brad Delp had a hell of a voice and death was a blow to the music world too).

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  2. This is kind of funny. I’ve mentioned multiple times I refuse to get facebook. The principle of the thing and all that, unsavory data collections practices, yada yada.

    Well between all the great stuff you, Donna, have been posting on the Ben and Big People pages you have lately, I broke down. I desperately wanted to comment on them, they were so great. I bit the bullet. Filled in the proper info. Signed up. Hit enter. And…now they don’t want me! LOL As soon as I got past their confirmation codes and captchas, they said there was suspicious activity on my as yet non-existent account and wanted me to send them a picture of myself to confirm an account that has nothing on it. Well, I’m not doing that, next thing they’ll be asking me for is a copy of my birth certificate or something and keep upping the ante.

    But I just wanted you to know, after all these years, between you, and Benjamin, you very nearly got me to do it. πŸ˜€

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    1. LOL!!! What a nightmare! Thanks for giving it the ol’ college try, anyway. I guess Ben’s powers *are* limited. Haha! Well, at least you can see the stuff. I’m having a hard time keeping the blog caught up on the Big People research as things seem to be happening pretty fast. I hope to write another article or two very soon, including adding the photos from all the new stuff that’s surfacing. ❀

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      1. Talk about nightmares, now I can’t even see the Big People group page! It wants me to sign in to see it. Aah. LOL I think Facebook must be stalking me now and is purposely blocking me, even though I’ve erased all the cookies.(J/K, I’m not that paranoid about it, it’s just a weird coincidence). Darn it. I can still see the Ben/Cars page though, let’s hope I don’t somehow get blocked from that next. πŸ˜€

        But it’s awesome all this new stuff is surfacing which just shows how needed this group was so glad you were given permission to start it. Such a great bunch of musicians and guys. Loved seeing the Big People concert shirt, that was pretty cool. Hearing stories about what down to earth guys they are. Plus those pictures of Ben with the baby from the other day were just precious(not to mention the back of Ben’s shirt LOL). You can just tell he loved kids.

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